The LOST Writers' Island

fricksgurl75 · The light on the dark side of me..

RE: The Women of Lost- A look at the female element..

Starlight · Charlie's Angel

I'm going to agree with you on pretty much everything except one tiny thing.

In the case of the men, Boone's death was considered a sacrifice. It did serve a storyling purpose. Eko and Charlie were the same. Sacrifices, dying heroically in a sense for a greater purpose.

I can agree with the Boone part since it became part of Locke's overall story and has affected him much since then. But I don't think Eko's death was really a sacrifice or all that important to the overall story. I felt like it was very useless and was just a way to get AAA off the show.

Now in the beginning, I do think Charlie's death served a purpose. It was heroic and a huge sacrifice and huge character growth for the character. It was everything Dom had asked for when they told him they were killing Charlie off. But no sooner did season 4 start then they threw that all away and had Charlie's death become useless and stupid. Desmond forgot why Charlie had to die, Claire quit caring that Charlie died, and pretty much everyone except for Hurley forgot all about Charlie. And don't even get me started on the fact that Desmond evidently developed amnesia and forgot that he sent Charlie to his death to rescue Claire and Aaron who only one of them made it on the boat. And when he sees Sun and Aaron he never fraking asks where Claire is or if she's safe, totally voiding both his vision and Charlie's whole sacrifice.

Ok, sorry...back on track. Just had to vent. :P Now, as far as the female deaths go, I do think they were for the most part useless. The only one that I think served to further the story was Ana Lucia's. Her death provided Michael with the guilt and pain to do what he would need to do later. Now, I know Libby served this purpose as well, but I thought that was just overkill. Ana was first and she was enough.

-- Edited by Starlight at 15:54, 2008-12-15

fricksgurl75 · The light on the dark side of me..

I think you made great points on Charlie there, gonna have to start on thread on the guys too it looks like. Cause there's alot to talk about there. I think his death at the time was meant to be heroic and then they went with the continuity errors, in terms forgetting him. Like Claire did.

I expect Claire to show more grief with regards to his death then they showed. Especially considering how close they were. And Des never did give that note to her did he? See they forgot about it.They did very little with Claire in Season 4, seemed to have forgotten about her too. One thing I liked was when Claire insisted on questioning Miles herself, saying it would throw him off guard a bit. But they never did anything with that.

As for the female deaths, i'm still not sold on any of them being neccesary. Ana's was a means to an end for Mike, and the worst part was I did feel sorry for her at the end. Cause she did die alone. Libby's death to me was more for the shock value. Cause people didn't care as much about Ana, wheras because of Hurley, we liked Libby. I won't even get started on Shannon's death, which so pointless considering Ana ended up dead not long after, most of the tallies did. So what was the point?

Your right about D+C talking out of their asses, because i've heard so many excuses about those things but the truth is, they didn't know what to do with these girls so they killed them off, had Claire wander off without her child. And gave that child to Kate, who I don't think deserves him.

.She's the one girl on that show that they devote any real attention to. And to be honest, this coming from a former Skater here, i'd like to see less of Kate, or at least the Kate we've been seeing lately. It's sad cause i was such a big fan of her starting out. Now she's at the bottom of the list of my favorite women on the show, hell toward the end of Season 2 I even liked Ana more, what does that say about what they did to her. Not very good things that's for sure.

They turned a strong, independent woman into a wishy washy object of a triangle, little more than that. It makes me wonder, along with Lisa what the hell she did to make them do that to her character. It's sad now.

-- Edited by fricksgurl75 at 21:24, 2008-12-15

Starlight · Charlie's Angel

You know I was actually really excited by the whole Claire disappears and ends up with her Dad storyline. I really saw potential there. But now...to put that on hold for a whole fraking year while they cater to wishy washy baby stealing Kate. Gah! The only thing that would make me feel better about that is if Kate suddenly has a moment of clarity and straightens up, but I'm doubting that at this point.

*big cleansing breath* lol

I totally agree that Shannon's death was pointless and totally uncalled for. Actually what was the point of any of the tailies? They are all dead now except for Bernard. And while I like Bernard...I don't like him that much. lol I was just getting to like Shannon when she died. It seemed very unfair to totally make her likeable and kill her off all in the same episode. Nevermind the fact that the person who killed her was dead within the same season.